Hence, the software is suppose to compensate for this flaw. @BillC thank you for a very clear and educated response. Put it to a vote and let’s see what the public thinks of that idiocy. The A350 program was launched around December 10, 2004 and first customer delivery was on January 15, 2015, taking around 11-years 2-months to finish. [201] On April 4, Ethiopian transport minister Dagmawit Moges stated that the crew "performed all the procedures repeatedly provided by the manufacturer but was not able to control the aircraft". @Loungeabuser — “All I need to do is highlight certain words and put others in bold and that makes me an expert?” —. ———————————————————————————————————————– As Boeing trots out the new 73 variant, news today Boeing has settled nearly half of all claims resulting from the Lion Air crash. [23], On August 30, 2011, Boeing's board of directors approved the launch of the re-engined 737, expecting a fuel burn 4% lower than the A320neo. ———————————————————————————————————————— ———————————————————————————————————————– [178] Boeing also considered a parallel development along with the 757 replacement, similar to the development of the 757 and 767 in the 1970s. [171], On November 22, 2019, Boeing unveiled the first MAX 10 to employees in its Renton factory, Washington, scheduled for the first flight in 2020. [55], Following the groundings in March 2019, Boeing suspended all deliveries of 737 MAX aircraft,[185] reduced production from 52 to 42 aircraft per month,[75] and on December 16, 2019, announced that production would be suspended from January 2020 to conserve cash and prioritize delivery of the 387 aircraft in storage once recertified. Such efforts have been done successfully in the past (eg, by Airbus), so it wasn’t considered “rocket science”. United is the biggest customer of the 737 Max 10 with 100 of them on order from Boeing. As United Airlines prepares to resume flight training for the 737 MAX and convince employees that the aircraft is safe, it will base operations out of two hubs. With respect to being an “expert” — about 95%+ of what I’m seeing posted on various forums about this topic have been emotional crap that have no bearing on reality! Breathe. [60] Southwest Airlines, the launch customer, took delivery of its first 737 MAX on August 29, 2017. Guess what, many countires there still fly much older planes than the MAX with absolutely no problem. Classic application of control loop feedback to maintain stability — but Boeing, unfortunately, screwed up its implementation of that process (possibly by corrupting the feedback loop damping factor?) [78] Around 80% of the 737 production costs involve payments to parts suppliers, which may be as low as US$10 million per plane. The new engine had a larger air intake diameter that required its mounting to change significantly from the older engine! @Agus — “No unusual design, no MCAS, no wasted lives.” —, I guess you’re not that familiar with how aircraft are designed nowadays? [199] The cause of the crash was initially unclear, though the aircraft's vertical speed after takeoff was reported to be unstable. Instead, you have a bone head in charge. [190] Of these, Boeing anticipates an actual backlog of 3,333 when orders unlikely to proceed are recognized. I think that the entire Boeing internal blame goes toward the 737-MAX program management chain, since there were many instances where Engineering did alert and complain about how certain aspects of the MCAS system architecture and implementation were inadequately considerate of failure/recovery scenarios … but program management over-ruled those complaints, and that ultimately resulted in the unfortunate crashes. PT. [156], Boeing hopes that 737-900 operators and 737 MAX 9 customers like United Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Alaska Airlines, Air Canada, Lion Air, and Chinese airlines will be interested in the new variant. [20], On July 20, 2011, American Airlines announced an order for 460 narrowbody jets including 130 A320ceos and 130 A320neos, and intended to order 100 re-engined 737s with CFM LEAPs, pending Boeing confirmation. This looks more like a show by the bone head CEO! [114] This was necessary to meet Boeing's internal objective of minimizing training requirements for pilots already qualified on the 737NG. The first customer delivery of the Airbus NEO was on January 25, 2016. Look, it comes down to Boeing taking shortcuts and the CEO should have taken responsibility and should have been out the door since the grounding. Airbus had successfully accomplished this “common cockpit” concept, but Boeing screwed up their efforts on the MAX …, As for the cockpit crews, did you read my prior post about this? That should keep people occupied for a bit.”, Uh … I’m not Boeing’s PR, as I’ve criticized their failed Implementation of MCAS … besides — why would I want to relate the MAX to Tesla’s CyberTruck — two totally different animals with totally different issues! [38] As production standard, the 737 MAX features the Boeing Sky Interior with overhead bins and LED lighting based on the Boeing 787's interior. I have nightmares remembering I stepped on a 737MAX without knowing it, except for the extra door, so I knew it was some sort of stretched 737. 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Long routes include 24 over 2,500 nmi (4,630 km), including a daily Aerolineas Argentinas service from Buenos Aires to Punta Cana over 3,252 nmi (6,023 km). [81] [141], In mid-November 2018, the first of the 135 ordered by Ryanair rolled out, in a 197-seat configuration. The fan was widened from 61 in (150 cm) to 69.4 in (176 cm) by raising the nose gear and placing the engine higher and forward. @Justin — “… such as poor maintenance (Lion Air) and poor crew training and insufficient experience (Lion Air and Ethiopian). @TM — “… Remove the stretched fuselage and added capacity out of the equation, and Boeing would have had no problem re-engineing the 737NG and keeping the same old wing and landing gear.” —, Well … but putting a (new) more efficient engine on the 737NG was a major benefit that led to the 737-MAX and its increased overall efficiency! Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I am personally in the party that won’t be happy flying the new MAX until they have been flying a decent number of frames for 1-2 years. If you offer something substantive to counter my posted contents, then that’s great — I always welcome discussions about substance! [163][164] United Airlines will be the largest 737 MAX 10 customer, converting 100 of their 161 orders for the MAX 9 into orders for the MAX 10. Instead of defending Boeing with long meandering rants, their shill (let’s call them “ShillC”) here in the comments should just direct everyone’s attention to Tesla’s Cybertruck. the max grounding had nothing to do with the little fanfare. United has a maintenance facility… It’s MY right to express however I want to, anyway! Electronically controlling the bleed air system improved efficiency. Working for Boeing? [129] It reached 250 kn (460 km/h) and 25,000 ft (7,600 m), performed a low approach, systems checks and an inflight engine restart, and landed at Boeing's flight test center in Moses Lake, Washington. Unfortunately the plane can’t enter commercial service yet, and it’s anyone’s guess when that will actually happen (Boeing is aiming for early next year). I thought the technical reports said that the new engines, under higher thrust levels, have a tendency to pitch the nose of the aircraft upwards above the intended flight path, so MCAS was supposed to bring the nose pitch back down to where it was intended to be … right? If you want a plane that works 100% of the time, then you will never fly. 1A002 was used for performance and engine testing: climb and landing performance, crosswind, noise, cold weather, high altitude, fuel burn and water-ingestion. Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners. If you'd like to participate in the discussion, please adhere to our commenting guidelines. Again stretching the limits. Furthermore, there is nothing inherently wrong about continuing to use an existing airframe, if it is still up to the task, since the manufacturing tooling and supply bases can respond much more quickly and smoothly to transition the new version into production! And using software to compensate for physical requirements to accommodate newer generation jet engines is a perfectly normal concept to adopt! The timeline of the MAX return will determine a number of other fleet decisions at U.S. airlines. [104], The automatic stabilizer control system has been enhanced to include Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) in addition to Speed Trim System (STS). [30], Rockwell Collins was selected to supply four 15.1-inch (380 mm) landscape liquid crystal displays (LCD), as used on the 787 Dreamliner, to improve pilots' situation awareness and efficiency. If you read my previous posts, Boeing had no choice but to “evolve” the 737 into the 737-MAX in the way that they did (ie, using MCAS) due to many factors that arose from marketing dynamics, rather than engineering preferences! , “… Political Correctness that want to dictate only certain “approved” ways and methods for self-expressions) … if only the vast majority of the public-at-large were able to think rationally, and not react so totally emotionally”. [159] Boeing 737 MAX Vice President and General Manager Keith Leverkuhn said the design had to be frozen in 2018, for a 2020 introduction. [167], The variant configuration was firmed up by February 2018,[168] and by mid-2018, the critical design review was completed. That should keep people occupied for a bit. Boeing has formally launched the 737 MAX 10, which is the largest and shortest range variant of the 737 MAX 10. Driven by the existing retraction system, a shrink-link mechanical linkage mechanism at the top of the leg, inspired by carrier aircraft designs, allows the gear to be drawn in and shortened while being retracted into the existing wheel well. [117] The MAX 7 and MAX 200 (a higher density version of the MAX 8) were expected to enter service in 2019,[118][119] and the MAX 10 in 2020. ———————————————————————————————————————— [184] By January 2019 the 737 MAX had 5,011 firm orders from 78 identified customers,[5] with the top three being Southwest Airlines with 280, flydubai with 251, and Lion Air with 251. [124] It is to fly 1,000 nmi (1,900 km) farther than the -700 with 18% lower fuel costs per seat. Every airplane will feature the new Boeing Sky Interior, highlighted by modern sculpted sidewalls and window reveals, LED lighting that enhances the sense … To date, Southwest Airlines is the biggest operator of MAXs in the United States, with 34 of them. [192][193] People familiar with the investigation reported that during a flight piloted by a different crew on the day before the crash, the same aircraft experienced a similar malfunction but an extra pilot sitting in the cockpit jumpseat correctly diagnosed the problem and told the crew how to disable the malfunctioning Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) flight-control system. In fact, the re-certified 737-MAX can be argued to be much safer than some of those other airliners in service, after having gone through such extraordinarily stringent reviews and tests by multiple world aviation safety agencies during its re-certification process! [24] Studies for additional drag reduction were performed during 2011, including revised tail cone, natural laminar flow nacelle, and hybrid laminar flow vertical stabilizer. The airplane was to have a similar fuselage but made from composite materials developed for the Dreamliner. 387 delivered to customers as of March 2019, Airframe only: $1–1.8 billion; including engine development: $2–3B, 28–29 in (71–74 cm) in high density, 29–30 in (74–76 cm) in economy, 36 in (91 cm) in business, 117 ft 10 in / 35.92 m span, 1,370 sq ft (127 m, 6,820 USgal / 25,816 L – 45,694 lb / 20,730 kg (no, *Overlapping production times like between the 747-400 and the 747-8 have been decided in favor of newer models, This page was last edited on 10 January 2021, at 17:52. @JB San Diego — “From my understanding, the MAX has a design flaw where the engine is too large for the wings. Production of the LEAP-1B engine continued at an unchanged rate, enabling CFM to catch up its backlog within a few weeks. The Final Investigation Report on the Lion Air crash dished out plenty of blame to go around (Boeing and FAA included) — but it also focused on the fact that the co-pilot had inadequate flight experience to properly help the pilot handle such an anomalous situation that resulted in a (very unfortunate) crash … it reported that, when the pilot handed control of the aircraft to the co-pilot, in order to attend to another matter, the co-pilot had no idea of what to do in order to properly sustain the anomalous flight behavior on his own … furthermore, the same issue of training and experience was also found with the co-pilot on the Ethiopian Air crash …. [121], Originally based on the 737-700, Boeing announced the redesign of the MAX 7 derived from the MAX 8 at the July 2016 Farnborough Air Show, accommodating two more seat rows than the 737-700 for 138 seats, up 12 seats. What I’m referring to, there, concerns rationality of thought as it relates to events, NOT “forms” of expression! [97] Airbus has continued to build on the A321neo, with the introduction of the A321LR, and then in a few years the introduction of the A321XLR. BTW — at least I don’t put multiple exclamation points in a row! During Boeing's Q2 2011 earnings call, former CFO James Bell said the development cost for the airframe only would be 10–15% of the cost of a new program estimated at US$10–12 billion at the time. And the rest we ALL know meanwhile: center of gravity is not where it should be and engines reaching hgher than the top of the wing ruin aerodynamics, which was tried to be covered up by electronics and is now that everyone knows officially tried to be ‘compensated’ by the same (modified) electronics – in simple terms. [122][123] The redesign uses the 737-8 wing and landing gear; a pair of over-wing exits rather than the single-door configuration; a 46-inch longer aft fuselage and a 30-inch longer forward fuselage; structural re-gauging and strengthening; and systems and interior modifications to accommodate the longer length. So from the Frankenstein family of aircraft, this one is the Frankenstein-iest? Wing in the back nose go to be more heavy an it would ” ” Keep de nose down. I don’t hate or love Boeing nor Airbus. The new series was publicly announced on August 30, 2011. 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I can’t even exercise my own 1st Amendment “writes” anymore, but must be compelled to “conform”! PARIS – United Airlines made a blockbuster announcement Tuesday at the Paris Air Show, shifting 100 of its outstanding 737 MAX orders to Boeing’s newly launched 737 MAX 10. [50] It was certified by February 2018. [5] The MAX 7 seems to have fewer than 100 orders among over 4,300 MAX total sales. So you’re going to indict that entire huge group just based upon the failings of just one sub-group? You mistook what I meant by “mostly function” — what I was referring to was whether there would be any hardware modifications needed to support an updated MCAS software fix … I’m under the impression that such changes, if any, would be minimal, if at all! United currently has 14 Boeing 737 Max 9 aircraft in its fleet, which it began flying before the March 2019 grounding, and also has orders for the larger 737 Max 10, Cirium data shows. By November 17, 2011 there were 700 commitments from nine customers including Lion Air and SMBC Aviation Capital. The MAX7 had an employee-only event and that rolled out before the MAX drama. The last pre-suspension fuselages entered final assembly in early January 2020. [191], On October 29, 2018, Lion Air Flight 610, 737 MAX 8 registration PK-LQP, plunged into the Java Sea 13 minutes after takeoff from Soekarno–Hatta International Airport, Jakarta, Indonesia. It makes no sense. Boeing has today very quietly debuted the brand new 737 MAX 10 at their facility in Renton, Washington. @Alan — “… in retrospect they had plenty of time to design a new aircraft …” —. Luckily, since the hardware can mostly function after MCAS gets fixed with proper software, the re-certification process can proceed much more quickly than otherwise! . But if you do not have anything substantive to contribute, then making such a snide remark about my writing style just demeans your character! To the anti Max trolls I like the adage “keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool, open it and remove all doubt”. The Electroimpact automated panel assembly line sped up the wing lower-skin assembly by 35%. Earn 60,000 bonus points | 2X points on travel and dining. [92], On August 19, 2020, Boeing announced that it had received new orders for the 737 MAX for the first time in 2020. The owner of this site is not an investment advisor, financial planner, nor legal or tax professional and articles here are of an opinion and general nature and should not be relied upon for individual circumstances. Let´s be serious here. it offers lower trips costs than the competition, the lowest trip costs, which minimizes the risk airlines take on as they grow. Following the Lion Air crash, Boeing issued an operational manual guidance, advising airlines on how to address erroneous cockpit readings. The Nancy Pelosi of aircraft, so to speak. This was the first fatal aviation accident and first hull loss of a 737 MAX. I guess that, unless one has worked in the Control Systems arena, this idea of using software within feedback loops in complex systems seems a bit perplexing … but this is done quite often in hardware engineering and is not considered to be any sort of “flaw”! About BenBen Schlappig (aka Lucky) is a travel consultant, blogger, and avid points collector. It’s fascinating how every comment section is being flooded by trolls once the topic is ‘Boeing’. [11] The airplane's Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) had malfunctioned on both flights. Maybe their engineers overestimated their abilities?” —. The Boeing 737 MAX 10 is the third and largest variant of the 737 MAX family, following the debut of the 737 MAX 8 and 737 MAX 9. Outside of banner ads published through the Boarding Area network, this compensation does not impact how and where products appear on this site. Most likely, laptop-toting Harvard-type MBA’s have infested Boeing like they have many American companies, and these MBA’s have been programmed like Pavlov’s dogs to “enrich shareholder value” (plain English: make the stockholders richer) by building cheap crap, overcharging for it, and getting the cheapest workers possible. [125] In October 2020, Southwest announced that it was considering the Airbus A220[relevant? It succeeds the Boeing 737 Next Generation (NG). I guess the 747, 757, 767, 777, and 787 are all “crap” to you? Boeing estimated it would cost an additional $6.3 billion to produce the remaining 737 MAX program, $4 billion for "future abnormal costs" as production restarted, plus an estimated $8.3 billion for concessions and compensation to customers. While the 787 is reasonably comfortable in terms of noise levels, and certainly a few steps up from the again very noisy 777, even the 787 does not come close to the A330 in terms of comfort and noise, let alone the A350 and A380 who are comfort wise and esp with regards to noise levels a class in their own. Wow. So yall instead target their geopolitics of the not being part of the 1st-world being Southeast Asia and Africa? The new engine casings included chevrons similar to the 787 to help reduce engine noise. [117] As the competing A321neo attracts more orders, the sale value of a 737-9 is the same as a 2018 737-8 at $53 million. [107], In November 2011, Boeing selected the larger fan diameter, necessitating a 6–8 in (150–200 mm) longer nose landing gear. It was created as a response to the Airbus A321neo. The agreement acknowledges that Boeing was fraudulent and deceptive in its communication with the FAA.Certification of the 737 MAX involved: “two of the Company’s 737 MAX Flight Technical Pilots deceiving the Federal Aviation Administration’s Aircraft Evaluation Group about an important aircraft part called the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (“MCAS”) that … The standard seats in Economy feature a redesign of the back literature pocket and tray table to provide additional legspace. The “preferred” way to address this issue would have been to design a brand new landing gear to give the body of the 737 higher ground clearance, but that would have greatly delayed the program by creating new conditions upon its future operations and therefore would have mandated totally new pilot training and certification processes, thus further delaying entry into service! [102] Boeing plans no major modifications for the 737 MAX flight deck, as it wants to maintain commonality with the 737 Next Generation family. Note that 787 and A350 were brand new designs. [153], Boeing 737-9 flight tests were scheduled to run through 2017, with 30% of the -8 tests repeated; aircraft 1D001 was used for auto-land, avionics, flutter, and mostly stability-and-control trials, while 1D002 was used for environment control system testing. [19] The A320neo gathered 667 commitments at the June 2011, Paris Air Show for a backlog of 1,029 units since its launch, setting an order record for a new commercial airliner. [126] On July 23, 2013, Boeing completed the firm configuration for the 737 MAX 8. That’s more important to me than my “style” (which is subjective, anyway). @Alex_77W — “… I wouldn’t panic when getting on board of a re-certified B737MAX but would think twice when choosing between carries in South East Asia or Africa….” —, You are absolutely correct in your multiple observations! United Airlines has resumed taking deliveries Boeing 737 MAX aircraft. Last I checked, there is STILL the 1st Amendment and Free Will on that! The 737 MAX is a fourth-generation Boeing 737, re-engined with CFM LEAP-1B turbofans. It is clear this whole 737Max disaster would not have happened if Boeing had started working 20 to 30 years ago on a fresh design for a narrow body. The plane can seat up to 230 people and has a range of up to 3,300 nautical miles. [30], The Boeing 737 MAX 8 completed its first flight testing in La Paz, Bolivia. [155], To compete with the Airbus A321neo, loyal customers such as Korean Air and United Airlines pressed Boeing to develop a larger variant than the MAX 9, of which Boeing revealed studies in early 2016. [87] By early April, the COVID-19 pandemic led Boeing to shut down its other airliner production lines[88] and further delayed recertification of the MAX. @EBWaa — “What does your habitually hysterical writing style and extravagant punctuation have to do with so-called ‘Political Correctness’, …” —, In my decades of high tech experiences in broad capacities, I’ve not had to deal with so much emotionally driven attitudes as when on online public forums … high tech engineers tend to pretty much always be rational about their thoughts, whereas the vast majority of the public-at-large just can’t help themselves. In March 2019, the 737 MAX was grounded worldwide after 346 people died in two crashes, Lion Air Flight 610 and Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302. 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